petitions to parliament

 The two petitions written by me were presented to parliament on 23 November 2015 at about 10am

 

Change the system ran a petition with 32,935 signatures, its here of you want to sign.  Parliament doesn't accept electronic petitions yet.  The politicians who got the petition in January might have bothered to tell the organisers.

Dr Jensen is the chair of the petitions committee in parliament house and has put out this page and video explaining how the house of Reps looks at and accepts petitions.

The opinionated bastard, the ego the size of a planet noticed Doc Jensen on twitter one day spruiking about his petitions committee.

I have two currently with them.

The first is

To the Honourable the Speaker and the members of the House of Representatives.

This petition of a concerned citizen of Australia draws the attention of the house to concerns of many thousands of social media users with regard to Mr Abbott’s right to sit in parliament.  Mr Abbott was born in the UK to a British father and got automatic British citizenship under UK laws of that time.  In June 1981 Mr Abbott applied for and got Australian citizenship by descent from his Australian mother.  On October 17^th 1981 he entered Oxford University as a British citizen.  Documentary proof in this web link http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/documentary-proof-for-petition-to.html

There is no record in Australia or the UK of Mr Abbott having renounced his British citizenship.  Under section 44 of the Australian Constitution a member of parliament must not be under any acknowledgment of allegiance, obedience, or adherence to a foreign power, or is a subject or a citizen or entitled to the rights or privileges of a subject or a citizen of a foreign power. Mr Abbott must have renounced his British citizenship by filling in a UK Home Office form RN and paying a fee. 

I ask the House to instruct Mr Abbott to show he has renounced his British citizenship and complies with the constitution, failing that for the House to remove Mr Abbott from parliament.

Principal petitioner:-

Tony Magrathea, 
 
The response from the committee is here:-

Dear Mr Magrathea

The secretariat received your second petition today regarding the Member for Warringah’s citizenship. The Committee meets again in the sitting week ending 12 November 2015 when they will assess your petition against the House standing orders for petitioning.

Kind regards

So my bet is Mr Abbott will be resigning very soon.  I cant get a bet on with Ladbrokes or William Hill no matter how much I beg them LOL

Second petition is to tidy up the sham of a law system, we have at the moment.  Section 44 of the constitution only works for 40 days every 3 years or so.

To the Honourable the Speaker and the members of the House of Representatives.

This petition of a concerned citizen of Australia draws the attention of the house to the monitoring, policing and prosecution of breaches of Section 44 of the Australian Constitution.  As things stand at the moment the only way breaches of Section 44 can be prosecuted is for two electors in the seat of a politician who is suspected of fraudulently declaring to the Australian Electoral Commission that they comply with S44 to pay a fee and have the matter heard in the High Court within 40 days of an election being declared.

The Australian Electoral Commission can’t ask about non-compliance with S44 and because of this the Australian Federal Police can neither ask about non-compliance nor prosecute for signing false declarations by an MP.

Should it be discovered after that 40 day period that an MP is in parliament in breach of S44 of the Australian Constitution a citizen has no way of having the matter determined other than hoping Ministers or the House will overcome party loyalty and prosecute one of their own in the JSCEM.

I would ask the house to determine which Minister has responsibility for monitoring, policing and prosecution of breaches of Section 44 of the Australian Constitution and which government department, authority or commission will do that outside of the 40 day period mentioned earlier.

Principal petitioner:-

Tony Magrathea

 The petition system will work, eventually.  Unlike the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters who were asked who monitors,prosecutes and polices S44 of the constitution, they had a secret meeting held by the Labour party as chair a few days after Abbott was arseholed and decided they would not responded to my query.  Mr Griffin you have a hell of a lot to explain to the people of Australia.  My last blog details that fiasco slash farce.

That bit at the bottom of my blogs where Fagin sings about picking pockets

Letter to the editor

Independent Australia doesn't do letters to the editor and most papers refuse to me because I write  things they don't want to read

Dear editor

I was a little preoccupied by the former Prime Minister being in parliament as a dual national.  As you and some of your readers know dual nationals are not allowed in our federal parliament because section 44 of our Constitution says it can't happen.

Nothing wrong with dual nationals, I am one and have survived the legal system in Australia pretty well, so far.  But a Prime Minister who forgot to renounce his British citizenship is a little careless.

I'm over it, more or less.  The thing that now sticks in my craw is the way the Labour party and Liberal party combine to protect the former PM from any investigation.  And if Labour won't use the Australian spelling there is no way I will change.

Mr Griffin is a Labour party honcho who took over as acting Chair of the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters during the over throw of the former PM.  He held a secret meeting of some members of the JSCEM on the 14th of October to discuss my emails to members of the committee asking specifically:

could you please tell me who is responsible for monitoring and policing S44 of the constitution.

The AEC say that the constitution isn't law and they do not monitor it.
The AFP say they can not prosecute breaches of S44 because the AEC can not ask about S44 of the constitution.
Senator Brandis doesn't do it because the only current breach is a member of his party.

So who monitors compliance and prosecutes breaches of S44 of the constitution

The secret meeting decided they would not inquire into who monitors S44 of the constitution.  It's what they do, JSC Electoral Matters.

Why is there a cover up about who monitors and prosecutes breaches of our Constitution? Why is a part of our constitution only prosecuted for 40 days every three years? And then only in a very special way, within 40 days of an election being decided 2 voters from the seat of a suspected member of parliament in breach of S44 of the constitution must fork out $500 and go to the High Court to determine if the MP is in the parliament legally.

Another funny bit that came out of my asking questions was my gmail account being hacked last year shortly after sending a few emails and receiving one reply.  Everything went and they even cleared the bin.  No way for anyone to recover anything.  I had just asked Brandi,Bishop and Brough to find out if the former PM complied with s44 of the constitution. 

I had also asked the AFP to look at prosecution for fraud, every potential MP has to sign a declaration for the AEC saying they comply with amongst other things, S44 of the constitution.  I believe it was Roman Quaedvlieg as 2IC of the AFP who replied to me and said the AFP can not examine the matter or prosecute for fraud because the AEC can not look at citizenship compliance under S44.

Coincidence my email got hacked, I can't say who did it because I just don't know.  Mr Quaedvlieg was promoted by the former PM to the Border Farce job.

cheers

Tony

documentary proof for petition to parliament

Mr Abbott's British birth ceritficate

Mr Abbott's file cover for the application for Australian citizenship, the whole files is here. The interesting thing about the documents here is that Mr Abbott never signed a document in his own application for citizenship file.  He was given citizenship without applying, his mother filled in the forms but because Mr Abbott was an adult at the time this breaks all Immigration department rules.

The FOI from Oxford University indicating Mr Abbott entered the university as a British citizen