Special Minister of State

The Special Minister of State is the minister responsible for looking after minor things like the Australian Electoral Commission.

We are on the 4th SMOS since Abbott came to power in 2013.

I am not just a nutter trying to get Abbott into court, I really do have some constructive ideas on how to do things better.

At the moment the part of the constitution which looks after dual nationals and their violation of our laws is off limits to all and sundry once the 40 days after the seat is declared and people in the electorate can take their MPs to the Court of Disputed Returns.

I mentioned this to Senator Robinson the first Abbott SMOS, then to Mr Brough the first Turnbull SMOS then to Senator Cormann the second Turnbull SMOS and this week to Senator Ryan the third Turnull SMOS.

None have bothered replying to my suggestions.  They ignore me in the hope I will go away.

I suggested that they as SMOS can write a ministerial directive allowing the AEC to examine section44 compliance and breaches.  They have the power to write a letter and let the AEC look.  They ignored me and my idea.

Two liberal MPs might face the Court of Disputed Returns because the first 3 SMOS didn't bother reading and replying. 
Two labour MPs, Gary Gray and Bernie Ripoll and one liberal MP, Bob Baldwin have quit parliament rather than risk their electorate taking them to the Court of Disputed Returns.
Two liberal MPs lost their seats and won't have the joy of being taken to the Court of Disputed Returns, Doc Jensen and Andy Nikolic, though I bet they could be taken there because they both signed a statement they comply with S44 when they are still dual nationals.

One senate candidate is facing prosecution for fraud for saying they complied with S44 when they don't.  Strange because the AEC are taking this bloke to court but none of the liberals?  Something to do with the make-up of the AEC board?

One candidate in Abbott's seat of Warringah may also face prosecution for falsely signing about S44, he wrote a copious blog about it and I am sure no one in the AEC actually reads anything the candidates publish.  You want to hope so Warringah candidate.

I have no say in who goes to the Court of Disputed Returns and who doesn't, my Mps are removed regularly when the Australian Federal Police question them about criminal matters.  Let's Wallace and his grommets survive a bit longer than Slipper and Brough.  I did check up about a Queensland senator who assured me she got Australian citizenship from birth, she was born in Canadia and her parents registered her birth overseas immediately, unlike Abbott waiting until he was 23 and causing himself so many problems.  Onya Senator Waters for clearing the matter up.

If you want to read more there is a few pages sent to Senator Ryan below.  He blocked me on farcebook and twitter after writing to him so I guess he wanted Abbott and Turnbull to face the prospect the Court of Disputed Returns.

Should you want to cross my palm with silver, goodonya and thanks.

The letters I sent to Senator Ryan before I found he had blocked me.  The middle finger letter  I sent after these two poked fun at a small man with a huge bible, sort of  penis slash moral envy?

Senator Ryan  SMOS

Dear Senator

I have tried writing to the previous three Special Ministers of State and all three refused to respond to my letters.  I never even got an automatic reply.

At the moment S44 of the constitution is causing chaos in Tasmania the senate election where a NXT senate candidate who has British citizenship faces fraud charges and depending when he got his British citizenship he may have lost his Australian citizenship automatically,  and he faces the possibility of deportation.  He was not born in the UK but applied fro British citizenship some time in the past.  There was a time this caused automatic renunciation of Australian citizenship.

A candidate in Warringah, David Barrow is having the same problems.  He either lost his Australian citizenship automatically or ran for election as a dual national.  He is waiting for Mr Dutton to advise.  that could take a long time.

I am assured two other candidates are going to be taken to the Court of Disputed Returns, both of them elected liberal party members.  One for being  a dual citizen and the other for having the rights and privileges of a foreign national.

Three former members of the house of representatives have chosen to not run for re-election rather than face the risk of Court of Disputed Returns questioning them about their British and French citizenship.  Two were labour one was liberal.

Mr Nikolic is lucky he lost the election because activists in his seat were preparing to take him to the CODR.  The Serbian embassy have advised that a person can not renounce their Serbian citizenship without having done national service there.  Mr Nikolic was 5 when he came to Australia so could never renounce his Serbian citizenship.

If Senators Robinson,Cormann and Mr Brough had responded to my letters about the problems with S44 this would not be happening.

I suggested to the three that they can write a ministerial directive allowing the AEC to demand those born overseas show they comply with the constitution and provide proof of renunciation of heir other citizenship.

Senator Macdonald's office in Queensland told me Mr Abbott is a dual national and that you all know that.  Senator Macdonald's staffer said that all the LNP know that  and aren't worried because no one will take him to the CODR.

Will you make a ministerial directive to have the AEC demand candidates and MPs show they have renounced their other citizenship and comply with our constitution? 

I do hope you will reply or should I expect liberal MPs to continue ignoring this problem in the hope it goes away.

Second letter to senator Ryan 22/7/16

Dear Senator Ryan

fingers crossed you aren't going to ignore me in the hope I go away.

Because your LNP mates Robinson,Cormann and Brough didn't bother looking at or answering my letters about S44 the election may be thrown out in the courts.

http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2016/06/candidate-nomination-election-2016.html  I have contacted the legal people at AEC and they advise  The AEC administers the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 (Electoral Act) in relation to the conduct of federal elections.  The AEC does not administer the Constitution as is made clear by the Administrative Arrangements Order made by the Governor-General.  The administration of the Constitution is the responsibility of the Attorney-General’s Department.  Accordingly, the AEC is not in a position to disqualify any candidates due to the operation of section 44 of the Constitution.

The AEC is subject to the requirements of the Electoral Act.  Section 172 of the Electoral Act sets out the only grounds upon which the AEC is able to reject a nomination of a candidate.  Those grounds do not include any possible disqualification of a candidate under the Constitution.

Yet the AEC asks about the constitution on the nomination form.  This seems to be in breach of their own legislation.

Mr Pirani, chief legal officer of the AEC has Mr Cohen, the Tasmanian senate candidate I mentioned in yesterdays letter with prosecution of fraud for failing to comply with S44 of the constitution.  seems the AEC can have it both ways.  Prosecute minor parties and refuse to prosecute members of your party.

The shambles needs fixed. And before two very senior members of your party are put before the Court of Disputed Returns and lose their seat, their salary, their pensions, their expenses, and for one his Australian citizenship and face deportation.  Your new laws  re immigration would seem to be such that one of your senior party members will be heading back to England.

It is terrible that  Brough Cormann and Robinson would risk shattering the lives of two, possibly more members of your own party as well as a few good Australians who tried to do their democratic duty for this country.

Please advise what you intend to do.

Yours  Tony Magrathea

It's all about me

I was told this week it's all about me, about my ego and me making a place in history for myself.

It isn't.

First up thank you to those who donate, I can't reply to you personally because Paypal protects your privacy and goodonem for doing that.

Secondly why did I bother?
I am a pom with Australian citizenship a dual national. Born in the same year as Tony Abbott.  He came as a boat person I flew.

As a dual national I was curious when and where Tony Abbott got his Australian citizenship, there was nothing I could find in anything written about him or by him and because of the Sue vs Hill thingy in the High court about a One Nation senator having her election revoked because she was a dual national I was curious about when he renounced his British citizenship.

Why would a man who had just become Australian Prime Minister not be waving his Australian citizenship around madly and screaming look at me!  And why wouldn't he be not doing the same with his renunciation of British citizenship?  So I asked.  And was ignored.

I got so frustrated I started looking up things and felt for certain that a document as important as his renunciation of British citizenship , which was needed for him to enter parliament, would be available in the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet.  Instead of going through the fluff of writing and being ignored again I decided to write to the FOI clerk and ask for advice on how to lodge an FOI.  I had never done one before and only ever rad about them in the papers.

Ms Credlin, the maker of fine cuppas wrote to me and said she would never allow any FOI asking about Mr Abbott's renunciation of British citizenship, she had refused the FOI before I had actually written one.

And so it started.  I wrote to the Rhodes Trust, they told me their rules were adjusted after Mr Abbott so that what he did could never happen again, they weren't specific in what he did but I presume it was to do with him getting Australian citizenship days before he was due to fly to England to enter Oxford.  Or maybe it was actually entering Oxford as a British citizen,  I wrote to them asking if they could tell me if he went there as a pom, Aussie or dual, they said he entered Oxford just as a British citizen.

I wrote several times to the Home Office in the UK with FOI requests, I even appealed their refusal to say more than we can neither confirm nor deny Mr Abbott has renounced his British citizenship.  I later found out there is a 30 year embargo on that information and the 30 year will be up in March 2024 for Mr Abbott.  If there are no renunciation papers released then, it shows he entered parliament illegally and signed a false declaration at his first election.

One thing the Home Office did let loose in the appeal was that part of the reason was S29 of the Data Protection Act which tells what can and cant be released when it relates to possible crimes.  Signing false declarations is possibly a crime.

That all happened in early 2014, after that I thought I would talk with my elected representatives. HA
I wrote to the AFP saying I believed Mr Abbott had signed a false declaration to get into parliament, Mr Abbott was sleeping with them at the time and the cop I was dealing with got a very nice promotion a little later.

The MPs I wrote to were Brandis, Brough and Bishop.  Brandis is AG and my senator, Brough my local MP and Bishop the helicopter girl who was also speaker of the house, I wasn't nearly as cynical about politicians as I am now.  None replied to me. The cop was I believe Mr Quaedvleig.   Shortly after those emails my gmail account was hacked and everything cleaned out properly.  5000 emails gone but being the good data security person I was only two of any importance were lost, one from Mr Leigh about asylum seekers being allowed into the country and the other from Mr Quaedvlieg more or less telling me where to go.  everything else was kept in cloud backups,USB sticks, other computers and hard copies at home and a friends house.  I started my gmail with a clean sheet and extreme security, so much so I was woken at midnight one night last week when someone was trying to hack my account again.

From there I contacted every member of parliament and had an enormous variance in the replies I got, though most just ignored.

Senator Cameron's office said it was an irrelevance.
Senator MacDonald's said everyone knew he was a dual national but that's not illegal is it?
Mr Wilkie said it was a matter his constituents probably wouldn't be interested in so he wouldn't comment.
Senator Nash wrote to Mr Abbott and Senator Brandis and is still waiting for a reply.
Ms Butler wrote to Mr Abbott and ditto is still waiting for a reply but because of her writing I am sure she got special treatment from Helicopter girl and was section 94A'd  out of question time every time I watched the fiasco on telly.

Jan Olson got an FOI through PM&C while Credlin was overseas with Abbott, lucky timing but she insists the wording she used.  That FOI said the renunciation papers didn't exist.

Change The System wrote a petition and presented it to Ms Plibersek, Mr Bandt, Mr Shorten.  33,250 signed that petition and the MPs ignored that.  It became clear later why, Mr Bandt didn't want to upset the liberals because they wanted senate reform and Mr Shorten still had dual national MPs in his parliamentary ranks.  I have asked Mr Gray and Mr Ripoll to show they have renounced their British and French citizenships, instead of replying they decided not to run for election again.  An interesting thing about Mr Shorten, I asked him shortly after my email account was hacked to ask in parliament about Mr Abbott, I asked on farcebook and he blocked me immediately.

I had nothing to do with the petition except signing it, Change The System did a marvellous job in getting so many to dare ask the question and it is scandalous the MPs just ignored him.  I don't think they even acknowledged receipt and thanks him for his work.

 I asked three Special Minister of State to write a directive allowing the Australian Electoral Commission to examine and prosecute breaches of S44 of the constitution.  None replied, thanks again Senators Robinson and Cormann and Mr Brough.

The AEC can't look at the constitution because that isn't Commonwealth law, the AEC is limited to Commonwealth legislation only. The constitution was written by the states and legislated by Britain.
This may screw up the election if anyone dares to ask the High Court.

I lodged a few petitions in parliament as a single signatory, highly proper and normal.  The first asked Mr Abbott to show his renunciation papers, the response is here.   It is also the same response to the petition asking some mechanism be drawn up to allow monitoring and prosecuting of breaches of S44 of the constitution.  This is the first of the official cover ups to protect Abbott and I found later Bob Baldwin and Doc Jensen the head of the petitions committee.  I ask ed Baldwin and Jensen to show copies of their renunciation paper and neither bothered replying.

The next petition was directed to the Minister for Immigration to find out if Mr Abbott got his Australian citizenship legitimately.  I had tried writing to Mr Dutton, he refused to reply so I lodged an FOI request.  Legally the department has 30 days to respond.  They didn't so I lodged a petition in parliament.  That petition was hidden by Doc Jensen with Mathias Cormann and marked not to be answered.  7 months after lodging the FOI I got a response of about 100 blank pages and a few sentences saying I was using false documents to make the claim.  I used their own documents signed by their own minister in 1981.

And so it went on.  I tried the Federal court, was accepted then knocked back because it is a High Court matter.  I tried the High Court several times.  Later I found the registrar is a member of the liberal party.  Lawyers in Queensland are terrified of openly being associated with the case because the LNP up here control 30,000 businesses.  A huge amount of legal business to risk losing and being black banned from.

My grandsons have reams of failed paperwork for the courts to use as scribble paper, thousands of pages have been printed in my efforts to get the matter to the court, the last time was a few days before the election and I was knocked back for using the word "you" in the writ of summons.  Too personal said the registrar.  Another frustrating thing about he High Court is, Brisbane doesn't have a registrar, it is a fax machine for the Sydney High Court.  Needs fixed whoever is Attorney General or Minister for Justice in two weeks time.  To get to the Brisbane fax machine I need to travel 6 hours by bus and train which is a real and significant pain in my already broken back.

The election.  The people of Warringah now have a chance to put Mr Abbott to the court of disputed returns,  I have two people who have contacted me and if there are others wanting help or documents please contact me in the comment or find me on facebook or twitter.  There is only one me in the world, when I chose to honour Douglas Adams a decade or more ago I couldn't use Marvin, a brain the size of a planet, it was more like my ego was the size of a planet.  Hence the Magrathea bit.

And it seems the people of  Wentworth may be able to put Mr Turnbull to the court of disputed returns if they want to check another of my blogs. Talk to your legal people and see if you can.

The rest of the country might like to check with their MPs and senators to see if they can show they have renounced their birth nationality to sit legally in parliament. 

You would think that with something as basic and fundamental as the constitution and with candidates having to sign a document saying they comply with S44 of the constitution they would be able to show they have renounced.

Senator Walters  was born in Canada but her parents registered her Australianism straight away
Ms Ley was born in Nigeria but her parents registered her as a British national straight away and was never Nigerian, she assures me she has renounced legally.
Belgian and Malaysian born lose their birth citizenship when they become Australian and I think Singapore might do too.
Senator Ludlam is too hard to find out, he wont answer when I ask if he has renounced his K1W1ness
The Human Headline, Derryn Hinch has renounced his NZship
The former members Gray,Ripoll and Baldwin didn't risk running again, Jensen got 57-7'd and Nikolic got voted out,
Nikolic was a strange one to look at, again he refused to respond to my emails but checking with the Serbian embassy he couldn't renounce until he did national service and as he left when a toddler that was a bit hard to do. If he had bothered talking we might have blown away S44 of the constitution but he decided to stay schtum and protect Abbott.

So it's all about me, me chasing history and self importance and ego.  I was told that this week because I refused to hand over the names of he people who have contacted me about court of disputed returns for Abbott.

Thanks again to those who donated to try and get Abbott in court.  No click on this one, if you want to donate for my ego use another blog.

Candidate nomination election 2016

Yes I am the pain in the bum who is trying to get Tony Abbott into the High Court.

In my travels through the public services, politicians offices and laws of this country I have become familiar with a bit of what's going on that the normal voter does not know.

This year the Australian Electoral Commission brought out a slightly different Form 60, that's the group of forms that candidates or their representatives sign when they nominate to run for election.

This year there is an added tick box asking if the candidate complies with S44 of the constitution.

This is where the problems start.

The Australian Electoral Commission is there because of the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 a letter from Paul Pirani, the chief legal officer of the AEC said:-

The AEC administers the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 (Electoral Act) in relation to the conduct of federal elections.  The AEC does not administer the Constitution as is made clear by the Administrative Arrangements Order made by the Governor-General.  The administration of the Constitution is the responsibility of the Attorney-General’s Department.  Accordingly, the AEC is not in a position to disqualify any candidates due to the operation of section 44 of the Constitution.

The AEC is subject to the requirements of the Electoral Act.  Section 172 of the Electoral Act sets out the only grounds upon which the AEC is able to reject a nomination of a candidate.  Those grounds do not include any possible disqualification of a candidate under the Constitution.

The new Form 60 is in breach of their controlling act in that it specifically asks if a candidate is qualified under S44 of the constitution. You can not have the act under which the AEC operates precluding monitoring and querying candidates about S44 of the constitution and then ask them if they comply.

The Form 60 seems to be invalidated by asking about S44 of the constitution.

Senator Cormann has refused to answer my emails asking him to write a ministerial directive to allow the AEC to monitor and prosecute breaches of S44 of the constitution.  Similarly Mr Brough and Senator Robinson refused to reply to me.

Will a losing candidate read my blog and decide to challenge the election in the High Court so they can try and run again?   Or will Senator Cormann try to write a retrospective Ministerial Directive to allow the AEC to monitor and prosecute breaches of  the constitution in conjunction with the Attorney General?

Has the whole election been invalidated by that one tick box on the Form 60?  I couldn't face another 8 weeks of the bullshit and lies.

So there you have it, another blog in a quite long series.  If you want to encourage an opinionated bastard click the link to donate. If not, goodonya for reading.

Warringah

Warringah is the electorate home to Tony Abbott and this 2016 election has seen it become pretty much a basket case.

The new labour candidate Andrew Woodward is a millionaire calling for crowd funding to take on Tony Abbott.  He deleted all of my twitter posts on his account asking why his party is protecting Abbott yet he is gunning for him.  I mentioned TWATTS Timmy Watts article in The Age where I was basically called a birther.  You cant have it both ways Andy, either protect Abbott or sink him.  Your party chose protect him because Gary Gray and Tony Ripoli were also dual nationals.  Curiously they chickened out of the election once they saw the social media campaign to put all dual nationals who don't show they comply with the constitution into the High Court of Disputed Returns. A newspaper story about Andy.

Another candidate Marie Rowland is a dual national, she assured me she would show her renunciation papers but her party boss Nick Xenophon silenced her.  A mate of his from South Australia Senator Bob Day is also born in England and has refused to show his renunciation papers.  Maybe Bobby is a dual national too?

David Barrow was born in Australia and is famous for winning against Andrew Bolt.  David is running to promote gay marriage.  His blog is interesting reading and brings up a bit of a problem.  He applied for British citizenship because his dad was Welsh and that might have wiped out his Australian citizenship. So he is running for Warringah as a pom, cant even do the dual national thing just a straight out pom. His calling himself the andrewbolyparty may also be in contravention of the Australian Electoral Commission code of nice way to do things.

And then Jimmy from telly, James Mathison from Australian Idol is running to throw out Tony Abbott.  He is running to get the youth vote and using social media to garner support.  His campaign will be a social media one he proclaims.  Few problems, firstly he is 38 and not really the right age to chase the youth vote, the youth think he is part of the problem.  Secondly his proclamation of being social media savvy and using social media doesn't really stand up.  What is his farcebook address?  I couldn't find it.  And then he knows nothing of the major social media sites chasing Abbott for the last 3 years or so.  Biggest is the facebook pages, 350,000 people registered, one of them https://www.facebook.com/Tony-Abbott-Worst-PM-in-Australian-History-151576228341304/?fref=ts has 204,000 likes and in a good week has a million hits.  The Change page, the one set up during the social media campaign to get signatures for a petition to parliament to get Abbott to show he has renounced his British citizenship, that got 32,000 signatures https://www.facebook.com/changesysau/?fref=ts and was totally ignored by politicians.  The petition was given to Bill Shorten, Tanya Plibersek and Adam Bandt and promptly ignored.  The duplicity of politicians no longer shocks me.

The other bit of social media Jimmy from telly has ignored is this little blog.  On a good day up to 600,000 tweets and retweets would shock the twitterverse and get the message out that social media is a lot pissed off about criminals in parliament.  Signing a false declaration for the AEC is fraud and a criminal act.

So Warringah is currently held by a criminal fraud who ignores our constitution, Labour have put up a millionaire candidate looking to get crowd funding to throw out Abbott who is also protected by the labour party.  The Xenophon party is putting up a dual national to run against another dual national, an independent has gone the full monty and running as a pommie.  And then social media star Jimmy from telly who hasn't bothered to look at, let alone contact, the pages supporting hundreds of thousands of pissed off voters who want Abbott out of parliament and probably in jail.

Basket weaving will become a national sport after the basket case of Warringah is sorted.





The bit down the bottom that paid for the printing,the photocopying,the envelopes and stamps and phone calls.  The trips to Brisbane and caffeine top ups from 5am until home time. The trips to Brisbane are a 6 hour round trip public transport adventure.  AND the birth certificates, National Archives files, searches in the UK etc etc etc  Thanks to everyone who has clicked on this in the last year or so.  

For those of you who do go to the High court with your foreign born MP have fun, this is all about fun and the law.  I can't take names of people wanting to do this, maybe in the comments below or on the farcebook pages about your electorate or candidate.  Off in a few weeks to the High Court to try and get Abbott to front up before the voting starts.

 

do you comply with the constitution

DO YOU COMPLY WITH THE CONSTITUTION

no way of finding out so candidates are coming to me

Letter to Senator Cormann the minister responsible.

You Senator Robinson and Mal Brough have all refused to reply to my request for you to direct the AEC to be able to check compliance with the constitution for candidates and members.

The situation is now farcical.

Because so many know I am taking Tony Abbott to the High court,after the polls close, I am being asked to advise them if they comply with the constitution.

There is no one who can advise candidates if they comply.

Mr Gray and Mr Griffin did all they could in their respective committees to stop my questions about constitution compliance being answered, to protect the arse of Gary Gray. He isnt running again in the hope he wont be taken to the  High Court.

You are the minister responsible and you refuse to allow the public servants to check compliance, candidates re coming to me?  How utterly ridiculous is that.

The only reason the papers dont run with it is you are owned by Murdoch and he owns the media.



The bit down the bottom that paid for stuff like the printing,the photocopying,the envelopes and stamps and phone calls, the trips to Brisbane and caffeine top ups from 5am until home time. The trips to Brisbane are a 6 hour round trip public transport adventure.  AND the birth certificates, National Archives files, searches in the UK etc etc etc  Thanks to everyone who has clicked on this in the last year or so.  



 

Election coming foreign born candidates?

The law is an arse.

Or some of it is.  AND SO AM I

WONT CHANGE WHATS WRITTEN BELOW, BUT DOUBLE CHECK EVERYTHIGN, A CANDIDATE OR A SINGLE VOTER WITH TWO SIGNATORIES CAN TAKE SOMEONE TO THE COURT OF DISPUTED RETURNS, OR SO THE CANDIDATES HANDBOOK SEEMS TO SAY.  The bit about court of disputed returns will help.

GET A LAWYER WILL HELP

The Australian Electoral Commission puts out a handbook advising candidates they must comply with the constitution, the candidates sign a form stating they comply with the constitution but no one can actually check before the election.  A person must stand for election, be elected and if there are any problems with the constitution they will be dragged before the High Court and the Court of Disputed Returns to prove they comply.

A total waste of time and a reason for glee in every pseudo anarchist in the land.

If you have a foreign born candidate why not ask the local paper and email the candidate to get them to show they have renounced their foreign citizenship and if they don't provide the documents take them to the high court, the court of disputed returns. 

You will need two registered voters who have voted, they need to be ticked off because the candidate will be well and truly ticked off and will have their lawyers check the minutiae.

You will need a $500 bond for the court, not sure if this is cash up front or a letter advising you have $500 in the mattress.  

Get legal help. 

If you are successful claim the $200 a day from  the Common Informers Act if they are re-elected candidates.  Wont work for newbees because they haven't sat yet.  If you are feeling good at this stage remember me in your will or click of the button below.

Be persistent,ask your local paper to demand they prove S44 eligibility.

The AEC can not ask about compliance with the constitution because the constitution isn't a commonwealth law. Yep and that's been proven in the High Court.

Think about it and if you do it have fun.

Check the facebook pages and twitter for your local area or ask your neighbours if they want in on it.

For the anarchist in me it would be great for all 45-50 foreign born MPs who will be elected at the election to have to face the High Court simply because Senator Robinson, Mr Brough and Senator Cormann as Special Ministers of State all refused to send a ministerial directive to the AEC to instruct them to check compliance with the constitution.

Some are legal, Senator Cormann because his Belgian citizenship is cancelled once he applies for Australian, I believe Senator Wong is the same for her Malaysian citizenship.

I have asked every sitting MP who was born overseas and only Senator Cormann replied.  It is a letter from their former country which is needed for them to sit in parliament,  It should be available when asked for.

Abbott is explained in many blogs in the list to the right.  He has a lot of people in his electorate waiting to go to the High Court, or so I am told.

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For those of you who do go to the High court with your foreign born MP have fun, this is all about fun and the law.  I can't take names of people wanting to do this, maybe in the comments below or on the farcebook pages about your electorate or candidate.

 

Mr Marles,Shadow Minisiter for Immigration

Shadow Minister for Immigration

Dear Mr Marles,

I need your help.

Last year I got a copy of the National Archives of Australia file for the citizenship papers of Anthony John Abbott and was shocked to find he had not signed any of the forms or paperwork in the file.  His mother had filled in the application for him.

Mr Abbott was 23 at the time and had just got a law degree so shoudl have know what was required of him.

I phoned Immigration and was told that it was extraordinary for a mother to fill in a form for her adult son and she thought it was precluded by legislation.   The rules say a mother can fill in the forms for her children but once the child reaches adulthood he must fill in the forms himself.

I emailed Mr Dutton via the APH online connect button I am using to get in touch with you. that was in about June 2015 and still no reply.

I rang back after a month and was told to try filling in a dob in an immigration cheat,seemed a bit much but I did that.  And no response.

In November or December I lodged an FOI to find out what had happened with my email and online form exercise.  I still haven't had a response and the Information Ombudsman is investigating why.

I have been told by staff at Immigration that the email and FOI was stopped from being processed by the ministers office.

So I lodged a petition in parliament, I admit to being a pain in the bum and when I get ignored I try to find out what is being hidden from me.

The petition is 1133-1639 and was lodged on 8 February 2016.  The cover up continued, Doc Jensen sent the petition to Senator Cormann and marked it not to be referred which I learnt was petition speak hide it, no response.

This is the wording of the petition:-

 This petition of a concerned citizen of Australia requests the House to determine if former Prime Minister Mr Abbott MP applied for Australian citizenship by descent properly and correctly with regards to all rules and laws governing the Immigration application procedures of the time.

Former Prime Minister Mr Abbott’s citizenship by descent application in the National Archives of Australia is signed by Fay Abbott, his mother.  Mrs Abbott got assisted passage, colloquially known as the ten pound pom boat trip in 1961 so there is a chance that she may have been British at the time of former Prime Minister Mr Abbott’s birth, her citizenship on returning to Australia is not clear, she may also have been a dual citizen.  Immigration rules of the time the citizenship by descent application was lodged say the mother may lodge an application for citizenship by descent for a child, but when that child reaches adulthood the child must fill in the form.  Former Prime Minister Mr Abbott was 23 at the time the form was filled in and did not sign anything in the National Archives file.

I beg the house to determine if the former Prime Minister Mr Abbott MP filled in his citizenship by descent forms correctly.


As can be seen it is obviously a request for information about filling in an Immigration controlled citizenship application form.  Doc Jensen as since said on twitter that it is a matter of  portfolio responsibility in giving it to Senator Cormann.

Would you please determine if Mr Abbott got his Australian citizenship in the proper way, if his mother filing in the form was legal and if there is any sort of illegality about the citizenship application and paperwork held at the NAA for those MPs and Ministers covering up the illegality to be referred to the AFP.

I have tried in the past to refer matters to Senator Brandis as the Attorney General but FOI investigations show my email advising of possible criminal activity has been kept in his office and never referred to the depart of the Attorney General.

Thank you for your help

Tony Magrathea

PS I did PMSL laughing when I first found out Mr Abbott had done a Warney a decade before Shane blamed his mum.
The blog has all of the papers links and NAA files  http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2015/12/petition-about-signing-citizenship-by.html

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A little bit extra, ã message sent to Senator Cormann, he ended up with the petition.

Dear Senator

It seems your West Australian colleague isn't  quite sure of what you do in parliament.

It seems you are now responsible for Immigration citizenship applications.

Is this true?

If it isn't true will you forward petition 1133-1639 to Mr Dutton and ask him to respond to it please.

It is approaching criminal under S44 of the Crimes Act 1914  for you and 57-7 Doc Jensen to hide a legitimate query about a possible criminal matter in the tunnels of parliament secrecy.

http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2015/12/petition-about-signing-citizenship-by.html  Is the blog detailing the problems,

http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/mr-marlesshadow-minisiter-for.html  is the blog a copy of an email to Mr Marles asking him to determine if the citizenship application was handled correctly and if it wasn't, to determine if you and Doc Jensen and Mr Dutton have committed crimes in trying to cover up the query.

I said to you recently on twitter politics is fun, it is until someone tries to do something illegal.  It seems you are mixed up in the illegal cover up of a problem caused by an arrogant person getting his mum to fill in a form he should have filled in himself.

It is amazing that you and so many others would cover up for such an arrogant incompetent person who only months after getting a law degree couldn't figure out how to fill in a form so got mummy to do it for him.

Answer the petition or get Mr Dutton to answer the petition.



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