The law wont work so we must trust MPs

In parliament 44 two petitions were lodged, one asking who was responsible for looking after S44 problems and queries and another asking Tony Abbott to show his renunciation of British citizenship papers.

Senator Cormann replied to both with the one letter.  Pixels must be in short supply over at parliament house.

The two petitions are here



The reply to these is

So Cormann had set the rules.  Trust an MP or got to the Court of Disputed Returns.  Trouble is no one believes MPs and Bob Day and Rod Culleton sort of prove why we should never trust politicians.  Add to that a few candidates who didn't win but with whom I spoke about S44 and there are real problems in believing people.  Dave Barrow in Abbott's own electorate was and wasn't and then was again Australian, British and then dual national. Barrow has blocked me and doesn't like me because I quoted his public blog with the information he asked me to keep private.  Mr Cohen from Tasmania senate election advised the world he was still a dual national because he forgot to renounce his British citizenship.  He was a lawyer.

Goodness knows how many more.

Court of Disputed Returns got stuffed up a bit when the bloke doing it was committed to a mental institution on the way to the High Court to lodge for the Court of Disputed Returns.  He was kept in for 3 months and doesn't know who put him there or why.  The Court of Disputed Returns mat work if you can avoid the Abbottistas and afford to run a High Court trial and live in the electorate, but for 99.1% of voters it just isn't going to happen.

So back to the petitions, doc Jensen a possible dual national and total waste of space brought in the e-petition system which is quite nifty.  Petition EN0038 was lodged and put in Hansard on 21 November 2016.



House of Parliament rules state a petition must be answered within 90 days of it being read into Hansard.

About 3 months after the Hansard entry I rang the Petitions Secretariat to find out how it was going, that's when I learnt Mr Vasta. Chair of the Petitions Committee had hidden it from parliament.  I emailed my Queensland senators and my local MP Mr Wallace asking for help.  Someone mentioned the other S44, Crimes Act 1914, Compounding an Offence.  Mr Vasta sort of got worried bot three years in jail so let the petition be given to Senator Ryan for response.  So much stuffing around and Scotty getting his staff to lie saying the petition hasn't been received and one silly player saying the petition, about Water Gate is it?

Ryan replied, he hadn't bothered reading the petition or asking Abbott, the cover up continued unabated.  we must trust nominees for election to parliament to tell the truth.  Amazing when you think about it, these are the people controlling the minutiae of our lives, creating laws to control us and all we can do is trust them?




Ryan hadn't even bothered telling the Petitions Committee of the response, one of the committee wrote to me advising the Petitions Committee said a response would be given to them on 31 May 2017 and presented to the House on 17 June 2017.






Feel comfortable next time you vote because it is our trust that keeps the bastards honest.






Thank you to those who have PayPal'd me, much appreciated.  Being PayPal I can't thank you personally because your personal details are kept private.  Very much appreciated to have the support, in gifts or words, from so many people over the past 44 months.  There's that number again, started in the 44th parliament about section 44 and the other section 44 in the Crimes Act may  be just what convinces parliamentarians to do the legal thing.  Almost forgot the spill vote, Turnbull 54 Abbott 44.  Lucky numbers anyone?

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Drug testing for welfare recipients

Our beloved followers have decided to bring in testing of dole bludging scammers on welfare who also take drugs.

I wonder how these people in charge think junkies can afford to live on welfare?

The problem has been ongoing with the conservatives pushing to have everyone off welfare as soon as possible.  Last year in the Huffingtonpost B1 (Bronwyin Bishop, aka Helicopter Girl) and number 44 (aka Tony Abbott) were quoted saying that everyone on welfare are junkies taking drugs,  or so my quick skim of the article shows.  They quick skim and wiki report so why can't I? Number 44 says in Sky, where else?  We are creating welfare villages.

Centrelink, the government organisation that looks after welfare payments for this country.  Their random drug test paper is here

And says in part " This measure will trial the use of random drug testing in three locations as a way of better identifying and supporting those with substance misuse issues.

From 1 January 2018, 5,000 new recipients of Newstart Allowance (NSA) and Youth Allowance (other) will be subject to random drug testing in a two year trial."

Alan Tudge is the minister responsible for Human Services and the drug testing was brought in as a budget measure by Scott Morrison.  These are the two to blame.

And these are the two to ask if it is good enough for the junky dole bludging welfare scammers why not for the junky disabled pension scammers who get disability pensions for being drug addicts?  Disability pensions are based on a 20 point plan where people have to show they are so disabled on a list of 15 tables for impairment.  They really do put it all down to matching information on a table with your disability.  Drug addiction as well as alcohol addiction is a real cause for disability.

Tudge & Morrison why don't you test the 10% of disability penalty recipients who are on disability because of their drug addiction?  No idea of the number of disability pensioners on DSP for drug addiction but ten is a nice number.  Similarly those in charge have no idea how many people on welfare are taking drugs.  

To make things even and to keep up with my penchant for petitions I have lodged a petition with Mr Vasta, chair of the Petitions Committee, asking all MPs be tested for drug and alcohol every day they are in Canberra and at least twice randomly when they are out of Canberra. The problem is Mr Vasta hid petition EN0038 asking about Abbott's dual citizenship and a lot of Queensland senators and barrister MPs had to remind Mr Vasta of the Crimes Act 1914 section about compounding offences.  Once an EN number is allocated and the thirty days for signing the petition is begun I will post often on twitter and facebook with a link to it.

My rant is nearly over, I don't like my junky neighbours who are on disability pension for being junkies.  They still deal drugs and take drugs and fight over drugs and money for drugs and abuse people and bash each other and stand by off their tits as their daughter gets bashed.  But they are on a legal disability pension.

People on welfare don't do it as a choice.  It is far too expensive trying to live in this country without trying to pay for drugs too.

Tudge and Morrison if you do it for newstart and study recipients of welfare it should be done for MPs and for those disability pensioners who are on DSP because of drug addiction.  You can't just target the poorest monetarily, educationally and socially just to please the extreme right wing wankers in your party.

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Thank you to those who have PayPal'd me, much appreciated.  Being PayPal I can't thank you personally because your personal details are kept private.  Very much appreciated to have the support, in gifts or words, from so many people over the past 44 months.  There's that number again, started in the 44th parliament about section 44 and the other section 44 in the Crimes Act may  be just what convinces parliamentarians to do the legal thing.  Almost forgot the spill vote, Turnbull 54 Abbott 44.  Lucky numbers anyone?

Cheers thanks & goodonya

Will this be my last email to Tony Abbott?

Dear Mr Abbott

Last parliament, the 44th, Senator Cormann hid a petition that would have had you produce your renunciation of British citizenship papers.  This parliament Mr Vasta tried to do the same but a dozen Queensland senators and my local MP Mr Wallace convinced Mr Vasta that three years in jail may not be worth it for him.  He was concerned about the other Section 44 is in the Crimes Act 1914, called the Compounding Offences clause so released the petition for answer.

Again it took mention of the Crimes Act 1914 for Senator Ryan to change his story of never being given the petition by the Petitions Committee and so the answer is due in a week or so.

Will you wait for the senator to publish his response to the petition or will you put into Hansard a copy of your renouncement papers?

I didn't enjoy this chase, I didn't like being ignored by you, I didn't like being lied to by your senior staff and other politicians, I didn't like the contempt you showed to fellow parliamentarians in not even sending them an automatic reply to their letters asking you to show you comply with our constitution.  Ms Butler and Senator Nash wrote two pretty fine letters asking you as a fellow parliamentarian to show you comply with our constitution.  I didn't really like having to learn about FOIs, the constitution, immigration law, UK civil law, UK data protection, Australian data protection.  After 3 1/2 years you can basically thank Peta Credlin for my beginning to ask questions and to look and learn.  It has astounded me how arrogant you are and how ignorant of our laws.  You claim western civilisation is paramount, but the main tenet of western civilisation is the rule of law.

I look forward to your producing the documents, or your not producing the documents.  Either way is good for me.

kind regards

Tony Magrathea

PS would be loverly if your staff actually showed you the email, because I doubt very much has got through to you.

And the bit at the bottom asking you to Paypal a gift to me if you like what I write about.

Thank you to those who have PayPal'd me, much appreciated.  Being PayPal I can't thank you personally because your personal details are kept private.  Very much appreciated to have the support, in gifts or words, from so many people over the past 44 months.  There's that number again, started in the 44th parliament about section 44 and the other section 44 in the Crimes Act may  be just what convinces parliamentarians to do the legal thing.  Almost forgot the spill vote, Turnbull 54 Abbott 44.  Lucky numbers anyone?

Cheers thanks & goodonya

Do your own filthy work Senator Ryan

Petition EN0038 was presented to parliament and put in Hansard on 21st November 2016.  House rules say petitions must be answered within 90 days of being put in Hansard.

This one was hidden in the petition system by the Chair Mr Vasta.  He risked 3 yeas in jail to make sure Mr Abbott wasn't asked to show he complies with the constitution.  After I had found out the petition was hidden, it took calls to public servants in Parliament House to find that out because the information the petition had been hidden wasn't put on the web site, I wrote to my Queensland Senators and local MP Andrew Wallace Barrister-at-law.  They reminded Mr Vasta of the other S44, that in the Crimes Act 1914 which says things like hiding the petition could be construed as compounding an offence and worth 3 years in jail.

The petition was given to Senator Ryan on 15 February 2017 and a few days ago his staff told me they had never seen the petition.  Senator if you are going to lie to protect your mate Tony Abbott you too are probably in breach of S44 of the Crimes Act 1914 and could face 3 years in jail.  But don't ever put your staff in the postilion where they have to lie for you.  If your staff are party or public servant they must be protected from criminal prosecutions at all costs.  Asking them to break the law is disgraceful, even for a Liberal MP.

I wrote to my local MP and am slowly getting around to anyone who appears in public with Tony Abbott to remind them of the danger he puts them under.  Have a read and please feel free to send it to your local MP.

The two section 44s.
Constitution
Crimes Act

The petition and all of Mr Abbott's birth and citizenship papers have been posted throughout the blogs and at the bottom of this one.

The letter:-

Dear Mr Wallace

As a barrister you may have come across people who will do anything to cover up a possible crime.  I am finding the same with one of your parliamentary colleagues and many of his party mates.

In Parliament 44 Senator Cormann & Dr Jensen answered a petition asking Mr Abbott to show he complies with the constitution by telling parliament about the law.  And trust. The response said we the people should trust politicians when they tick the S44 compliance box on their nomination papers.  The AEC can't ask or check and they must believe candidates.  

Then Senator Cormann said if there was any other problem to use the Court of Disputed Returns.  That can only happen if I voted in Warringah, you are my local MP so obviously I cant go to the CODR.

The only other simple option is to ask MPs to ask questions.  My local MP at the time was Mr Brough and he didn't seem to want to have to do anything much let alone ask a question.  Ms Butler & Senator Nash did, they both wrote to Mr Abbott asking him to clear up the matter and show he complies with the constitution.  He didn't bother replying to either.

In the last 3 years I have had 6 death threats from various mouthy idiots on social media.  All have been referred to the AFP to do whatever they want with them.  I have asked the AFP to examine the possible problem, shortly after doing that my gmail account was hacked and everything irretrievably deleted and Mr Quaedvlieg got his promotion.  A coincidence I am sure.

I wrote to Mrs Bishop as Speaker and Senator Brandis as AG and nether bothered replying, in fact I have FOI proof Senator Brandis destroys my email about Mr Abbotts dual citizenship without referring to the AG department for answer.

I wrote to Mr Abbott's office asking how to lodge an FOI application and was told by Ms Credlin,who had decided to become FOI clerk, that if I lodged an FOI application it would be refused by her.

A petition was lodged with PM&C by another person and they were informed the renunciation papers do not exist.

The UK Home Office say they can not confirm Mr Abbott complies with our constitution.  They also said they could neither confirm nor deny he had renounced his British citizenship.  There is currently a court case in the UK to force the UK Home Office to say one way or the other.  I am running that by email unrepresented.  It seems they let you do that over there.

Another petition was lodged in this parliament, EN0038.  You helped get that from being hidden by Mr Vasta to being given to Senator Ryan for answer.  The petition was in Hansard 21/11/16 and should have been answered sometime in February.  Because Mr Vasta acted so unusually in hiding the petition it wasn't sent to the Senator until 15 February and due for response 16 May 2017.

I rang Senator Ryans office this morning and was told they have never received that petition and are claiming they should have 90 days from today to answer the petition.  I have sent him copies many times in the emails I have sent asking him to make sure he answers the petition, doesn't fob off the 1021 signatories with the law that doesn't work and to ensure he actually asks Mr Abbott for a copy of the renunciation papers.  the only way to get rid of British citizenship is to fill in a form and pay a fee, a very British thing to do.

Mr Abbott was born in London to a British father and Australian mother.  He got automatic British citizenship because that's the way the British law works.

He didn't bother getting Australian citizenship until the Rhodes Trust threatened to remove his scholarship.  A mad panic at Immigration saw his mother fill in the application forms and citizenship given to him on 2/8/81.  The date the minister approved the application is the date citizenship commences.  That gave him dual citizenship.  The form and Immigration rules say an adult child must fill out their own citizenship papers unless incompetent.  He had just got a Rhodes Scholarship so competence is not in question, the legality of his mother filling in the form may be though.

In October 1981 he entered Oxford as a British citizen, not as an Australian as is required under the Rhodes Trust.  Talking to students there with him at the time, the only reason for risking doing that would be to claim the UK students allowance on top of the scholarship.

I am a dual citizen like he is and that is what got me first asking him in the first place about when he renounced, he didn't bother replying.

You are in the party but you are also in parliament. Is the law the law for everyone or does party membership and sleeping with the AFP provide immunity for some?

Would you ask Mr Abbott to show his renunciation papers to Senator Ryan, parliament and me?

I have included copies of the petition, birth certificate,citizenship & Oxford FOI for you to look at.

I do hope you can do this for me as I have been messed around, threatened and lied to for more than three and a half years now.

Kind regards

Tony Magrathea

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